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Wish To Find One's True Love 1.1

 
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TheFerrett
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 11:56 pm    Post subject: Wish To Find One's True Love 1.1 Reply with quote

The goal of the Open-Source Wish Project is to create perfectly-worded wishes, so that when the genie comes and grants us our wish we can get precisely what we want. The genie, of course, will attempt to interpret the wish in the most malicious way possible, using any loophole to turn our wish into a living hell. The Open-Source Wish Project hopes to use the collective wisdom of all humanity to create wishes with no loopholes whatsoever.

The Open-Source Wish Project was inspired by this comic on Home on the Strange.

This wish’s intent is that the user finds the person who he can have the most satisfying, fulfilling relationship with.

And this is how what we would tell the genie to get it:

”I wish to meet the person who will give me the most fulfilling, satisfying, and happiest sexual relationship in my life in a fashion that would be conducive to us having that relationship as soon as possible – someone who is:

a) Living and will not die until at least the moment of my own death,
b) Currently available to commit to a sexual and emotional relationship with me,
c) Physically attractive to me in this state and time,
d) Someone who would find me more physically and mentally attractive than either anyone else she currently knows or anyone else she would meet in the course of a relationship with me,
e) Someone who my friends and immediate family (or, alternatively, you could list a bunch of people whose judgement you trust) would currently deem acceptable for me to date once they knew the true history and background of that person,
f) Currently not suffering from any long- or short-term diseases or handicaps that would significantly disrupt our relationship,
g) Located in a place that I could move to.”


1) If you think you have found a loophole (or "bug") in the current Wish wording that could backfire significantly, cut-and-copy the precise phrase you have issues with and post your suggested fix thusly:

BUGGED PHRASE:
…the erroneous part of the phrase.

POTENTIAL MISINTERPRETATION:
An explanation of how the phrase could be twisted to serve that genie's evil ends.

SUGGESTED FIX:
…the reworded phrase. Note that if you do not provide an alternative wording, you are merely wasting our time with nitpicking. Be a part of the solution!

2) If you think the current Wish wording is lacking something that could be disastrous, then post it thusly:

WORDING OMISSION:
…the suggested phrase you think should be in the wish.

POTENTIAL MISINTERPRETATION:
An explanation of how, without this added clause, our wish could come to ruin.

3) If you think the entire Wish wording is so hopelessly botched that you would need to wish for something else entirely to get what you'd actually want, post it this way:

BUGGED WISH WORDING:
Your new wording, rewritten from the ground up

REASON FOR NEW VERSION:
An explanation of why the foundations of the current Wish wording are so frotzed that it'd be better to start over, with a list of why your changes are better.

Periodically, all of the changes will be looked over by the moderators, and the most reasonable of the suggested changes will be incorporated into the official Wish text, at which point this thread will be closed and the new Wish version will be put open for discussion.

There are other Wish wordings for different goals, which you can see here. If you want to suggest a new Wish goal, go here. You may cut-and-copy the wish with attribution to its original source on Home on the Strange.

That said, let's wishulate!
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TheFerrett
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should note that a lot of people were paranoid about inappropriate sexual orientation or religion. However, that's covered in the initial clause:

"I wish to meet the person who will give me the most fulfilling, satisfying, and happiest sexual relationship in my life...."

This guarantees a baseline compatibility. If you meet someone who's absolutely wonderful but despises your religion and that would make the relationship unfulfilling, then obviously the genie hasn't followed the outlines of your wish.

Going for an increased level of detail by outlining every single way in which you could be compatible is just going to make it more difficult. Remember, folks: Whenever possible, let the genie do the work.
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Misa



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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugged Phrase:
g) Located in a place that I could move to.

Potential Misinterpretation:
Theoretically, you COULD move to almost anywhere. But, since I don't like/don't do well in the heat, if my true love were located in a desert, I'd be pretty miserable. There's also the theory that a move could significantly disrupt your life.

Suggested Fix:
g)Located in a place that I could easily move to, would want to move to, and would not significantly disrupt my life to move to OR Is willing to relocate to where I currently live.
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SorceressKnight



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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BUGGED PHRASE:

(I know it's my own doing, but I noticed an extra problem with...)

"a) Living and will not die until at least the moment of my own death,"

POTENTIAL MISINTERPRETATION:

The genie will introduce you to them, then book you both a hot date. On your way to the place the first date's located- you're both killed in a car accident.

SUGGESTED FIX:


a) Living and will not die until at least the moment of my own death (while also guaranteeing that the both of us will live at least "x" number of years...)
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Tamfang



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:50 am    Post subject: WORDING OMISSION: Reply with quote

"... who does not share with me any recessive alleles which, in a homozygous offspring, would noticeably impair quality of life."
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PotatoEngineer



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SorceressKnight wrote:
POTENTIAL MISINTERPRETATION:

The genie will introduce you to them, then book you both a hot date. On your way to the place the first date's located- you're both killed in a car accident.

If we listed all ten billion things a genie is not allowed to do outside of the immediate wish, we'd be wishing until we died of old age. We should just take it as read that the genie's power is limited to whatever we speak of, though they may interpret those words in the most malicious way possible.

So, "I wish for a million US Dollars" might have been stolen from a bank, but it won't create an FBI team outside your doorstep with all of the evidence necessary to convict you. How you avoid being linked to the theft is your own problem after the money appears, though a better wish would make the money spontaneously created and legal tender, rather than stolen. Similarly, any market crashes resulting from your spending are not influenced by the genie in any way, only by the way you spend your money.
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samineru



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BUGGED PHRASE:
c) Physically attractive to me in this state and time,

POTENTIAL MISINTERPRETATION:
Your genie grants the wish when you are heterosexual, then at a later date your sexual orientation changes and you no longer find women attractive. You meet an amazing woman. Whoops.

SUGGESTED FIX:
c) Physically attractive to me at the time of our meeting

Best Wishes!
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LotusMegami



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Potato said is very important. We're not wishing for a long and happy life, here. If the genie can fulfill your wish and then just kill you, don't wish for love - wish for the genie to not hurt you. If by sheer chance you die in a car accident, that's not the genie's fault.

There needs to be something about the length of the relationship. Do you want this to be a lifelong thing? A relationship that makes you very happy can also make you very sad when it ends.

Trust me on this.
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Alexander Snark



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

also have a general querey, what are we talking about when we're talking about true love?

I mean, the kind of love explored in, say, Wuthering Heights? It was absolutely unstable and lead to the ruin of several characters, but it was undeniably more passionate and powerful than an entirely content life-time in the suburbs could ever pretend to be.

I guess the main problem I'm having is that the idea of constructing a risk-free wish for true love actual seems to undermine the very concept of true love. That is to say, in creating this perfect relationship through this sort of wish you would be rendering it imperfect. You would enter into a relationship without any danger, you would never have to ask yourself "is this person right for me?" or "what if s/he leaves me?" because you know they are right for you and they won't leave. I for one think that these doubts are a neccesary piece of the puzzle of love, just like how all those theologists say that doubt is a neccesary element of faith (perhaps even its cornerstone). I don't know, I just think you can't really allow yourself to be in love without making a leap of faith. I suppose this wish does require a leap of faith, but it's faith toward the genie and not toward your partner, but that's neither here nor there.

Now, I'm not saying that you wouldn't be happy with the person this wish brought you to, I'm just saying that there would almost certainly be someone else with whom you could be happier- someone with whom the relationship carries the risk of failure.

So... would that paradox like make the genie explode or something?


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Alright, I also have a few thoughts on the wording:

Bugged Phrase: "most fulfilling, satisfying, and happiest sexual relationship in my life."

Potential Misinterpretation: The current phrasing could very easily allow the creation of a relationship that is purely sexual and lacking in any meaningful spiritual or emotional connection, and could still be concievably considered the "most fulfilling, satisfying, etc." The wish could also be twisted so that only the sexual aspect of the relationship is represented by these superlatives.

Suggested fix:
"most fulfilling, satisfying, and happiest romantic relationship with an equally fulfilling, satisfying, and felicitating sexual dimension.


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But yeah, those are my thoughts.
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Black Humor



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PotatoEngineer wrote:
SorceressKnight wrote:
POTENTIAL MISINTERPRETATION:

The genie will introduce you to them, then book you both a hot date. On your way to the place the first date's located- you're both killed in a car accident.

If we listed all ten billion things a genie is not allowed to do outside of the immediate wish, we'd be wishing until we died of old age. We should just take it as read that the genie's power is limited to whatever we speak of, though they may interpret those words in the most malicious way possible.

So, "I wish for a million US Dollars" might have been stolen from a bank, but it won't create an FBI team outside your doorstep with all of the evidence necessary to convict you. How you avoid being linked to the theft is your own problem after the money appears, though a better wish would make the money spontaneously created and legal tender, rather than stolen. Similarly, any market crashes resulting from your spending are not influenced by the genie in any way, only by the way you spend your money.


That's true, but the genie could introduce you to a nut who you have a fantastic relationship with for one day and then decides to kill you in your sleep.

So:

BUGGED PHRASE:
a) Living and will not die until at least the moment of my own death,

POTENTIAL MISINTERPRETATION:
See above

SUGGESTED FIX:
a) Living and will not die until at least the moment of my own death which should not change due to this wish
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calieber



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BUGGED PHRASE
e) "true history and background"

POTENTIAL MISINTERPRETATION:
The genie is part of her true history, which would almost certainly bother my father and my sister, if no one else.

SUGGESTED FIX:
Delete "true history" or include a clause saying we need to meet organically.
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