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Wish To Find One's True Love 1.0

 
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TheFerrett
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Wish To Find One's True Love 1.0 Reply with quote

THIS WISH VERSION IS CURRENTLY CLOSED.

You may see the new and updated version 1.1 of this wish here.[/url]


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Ronfar



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm.

1) You have to meet the person under circumstances that let you know that said person is the one you wished to meet and are conductive to forming a relationship. If you meet him/her because you ran over her mother, that would be bad.

2) Said person has to know a language that you know. Not being able to communicate effectively would be a bad thing.

3) "Available for a sexual relationship" could mean lots of things. It could mean someone married who would be willing to have an affair.

4) Said person may have relatives/friends from hell, or other pre-existing problems that would make involvement problematic. Like a father who would avenge the loss of his daughter's virginity by killing her and her lover, or someone who is being hunted by the Mafia.

5) The match needs to be (reasonably) socially acceptable; you wouldn't want to be paired with someone who has not yet reached the age of consent, for example. Religion or other cultural differences could also be a problem. (Interracial relationships are more acceptable today than in the past, but depending on circumstances, that could be another potential minefield.)
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alexmegami



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arguably, religion would be covered under their finding you "mentally acceptable", although the family worry is definitely in there.

So
OMISSION EDITS:
"someone who is and has all of the following:"
...
"g) a family that accepts our relationship;
h) fluent in /my language/
i) met in a way that is natural and condusive to a relationship;
j) not currently in a relationship."
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SorceressKnight



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This wish’s intent is that the user finds the person who he can have the most satisfying, fulfilling relationship with.

And this is how what we would tell the genie to get it:

“I wish to meet the person who would give me the most fulfilling, satisfying, and happiest relationship in my life – someone who is and has all of the following:

a) Living,
b) Currently available for a sexual relationship,
c) Physically attractive as far as I am concerned,
d) Someone who would find me physically and mentally attractive,
e) Currently not suffering from any long- or short-term diseases or handicaps that would significantly disrupt our relationship,
f) Located in a place that I could move to
g) a family that accepts our relationship;
h) fluent in /my language/
i) met in a way that is natural and condusive to a relationship;
j) not currently in a relationship."

BUGGED PHRASE:

a) Living,
c) Physically attractive as far as I am concerned,

POTENTIAL MISINTERPRETATION:
a) Hasn't anyone else seen "City of Angels?" Just because the person you'll meet and fall in love with is living currently and will not have any disease to cause this to occur doesn't mean that that will occur. As such, the genie will then go:

"Okay- here you go. Be happy."

Two days later, your lady/man love ends up dying in a car accident or other unnatural form of death.

c) Similar story- just because she's physically attractive at the moment you meet her doesn't mean the same thing throughout: You could be put with a supermodel, she gets in a freak accident, and you're left for the rest of your life with not just a person who you wouldn't think was attractive, but worse, someone who used to be attractive and knew it, meaning she would have all the likely drama of someone who used to be attractive (arguably a worse combo than someone who was always unattractive.)


SUGGESTED FIX:

“I wish to meet the person who would give me the most fulfilling, satisfying, and happiest relationship in my life – someone who is and has all of the following:

a) Currently living and will not die at any time until the moment of my own death,
b) Currently available for a sexual relationship,
c) Physically and mentally attractive as far as I am concerned and who will remain physically and mentally attractive to me for as long as I will live,
d) Someone who would find me physically and mentally attractive,
e) Currently not suffering from any long- or short-term diseases or handicaps that would significantly disrupt our relationship,
f) Located in a place that I could move to
g) a family that accepts our relationship;
h) fluent in /my language/
i) met in a way that is natural and condusive to a relationship;
j) not currently in a relationship."
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julesbourglay



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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:21 pm    Post subject: Also: Reply with quote

This person cannot be ME.
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Allah Sulu



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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I wish to meet the person who would give me the most fulfilling, satisfying, and happiest relationship in my life..."

I'd replace "would" with "will" – you might meet the girl who "would" be perfect for you, but never actually get anywhere due to circumstances within or beyond your control. Particularly if a vengeful genie is in charge of the circumstances.

It's also quite possible that you will meet this person who is perfect for you and not know it. If you wish to meet your perfect woman, and you meet two women that day, how do you which one was produced by the wish and which one is just a chance encounter? Anyone who's dated knows that someone who initially appears perfect rarely turns out to be so, and vice versa. A vengeful genie could easily arrange for you to meet a whole slew of attractive women who seem right for you, but only one will actually be perfect and not turn into a psychopath. I would add "and recognize" after the words "to meet" to make sure that you actually go after the correct person.
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Allah Sulu



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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I wish to meet the person ... Physically attractive as far as I am concerned"

I realize that you're keeping the wishes relatively generic, so that anyone can use them; but there are some things the user definitely needs to specify - the whole point of this exercise is to make the wishes as clear and specific as possible.

Therefore, "person" should be replaced with "man/woman", so that the wisher clearly states which gender they want in a partner. It is quite possible, after all, for a straight man to see another man as "physically attractive" (but just "not his type"). And even if you expanded on that clause to make the person "sexually attractive to you", all the genie would have to do is reverse your orientation. Whammo! You're gay, and here's your new boyfriend!

(I'm not being homophobic - I doube if any of my gay friends would want to be turned straight against their wills either.)
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julesbourglay



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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:08 pm    Post subject: At the risk of sounding homophobic… Reply with quote

"all the genie would have to do is reverse your orientation. Whammo! You're gay, and here's your new boyfriend! "

Now THAT's getting monkey-clawed.
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Allah Sulu



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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: At the risk of sounding homophobic… Reply with quote

julesbourglay wrote:
"all the genie would have to do is reverse your orientation. Whammo! You're gay, and here's your new boyfriend! "

Now THAT's getting monkey-clawed.


I believe something similar was done in both versions of Bedazzled (each of which is a good display of willful and deliberate wish misinterpretation).
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apostate_96



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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One other point that would need to be added is making sure this person isn't a blood relative. After all, I could see the hypothetical Evil Genie hooking someone up with a parent for their perfect relationship....which would be rather creepy. So would being hooked up with an adult child. It'd also be rather rough being hooked up with someone a LOT older than you, by say 40 or 50 years

I'd suggest adding to the list of criteria:

- no closer than a second-order relative (or whatever the term is for no closer than second cousins)
- no more than 5-10 years older or younger than myself
- no younger than 18 (assuming the wisher is an adult)
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Aliza



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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2006 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

f. "located in a place that I could move to" is way too subject to subversion by a malicious leprechaun. Located somewhere where I can develop a relationship in a natural way, before the subject of having to relocate to be with them permanently (or them having to relocate) comes up.

g1. acceptable to my family

k. Has the same general goals for a relationship as I do, including but not limited to:
0. Interested in *having* a relationship
1. Desire for children or lack thereof, and timeframe if desired
2. Monogamy, polayamory, polygamy, polyandry, or other choice
3. Role of sex in the relationship (frequency, paraphilias, etc.)


l. not overly burdened by financial debts, family responsibilities, excessive work/business responsibilities, or other "baggage"
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Araex



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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allah Sulu wrote:
"I wish to meet the person ... Physically attractive as far as I am concerned"

...

Therefore, "person" should be replaced with "man/woman", so that the wisher clearly states which gender they want in a partner. It is quite possible, after all, for a straight man to see another man as "physically attractive" (but just "not his type"). And even if you expanded on that clause to make the person "sexually attractive to you", all the genie would have to do is reverse your orientation. Whammo! You're gay, and here's your new boyfriend!

(I'm not being homophobic - I doube if any of my gay friends would want to be turned straight against their wills either.)


I'm not sure that this part really applies - perhaps the perfect person for you is of the same/opposite sex, and so the genie will give you this person, even if you didn't previously think you were of that orientation.

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e) Currently not suffering from any long- or short-term diseases or handicaps that would significantly disrupt our relationship


Significantly? How can that be determined? I think that this clause should be modified in two ways - one to avoid the 'significantly' and also to add 'and never will suffer' after the word suffering.

On a different note, it occurred to me that whilst the person could be perfect for you, your friends might absolutely detest her, which could still ruin your life. To this end, a new clause should be added, reading that they should be accepted and welcomed but not desired by any friends.
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